In this episode, Fred interviews Jonathan Bentley - author of - Shadowing St. Francis: A Pilgrimage of Sacred Emergence in the Age of A.I.

https://mitpressbookstore.mit.edu/book/9781968136376

What if orthodoxy is dead and AI knows why?

A barefoot monk, a broken church, and an open future. A retired tech entrepreneur. Fifty years as a committed evangelical. A decade of faith deconstruction he couldn't outrun. And a 120-mile pilgrimage through Italy that changed everything.

Shadowing St. Francis follows Jonathan Bentley from Florence to Assisi to Rome, walking the ancient path of a man who stripped naked in the town square, handed his clothes to his father, and walked into the woods to find God. Eight hundred years later, Francis of Assisi still has something to say-to those exhausted by certainty, wounded by the church, and wondering what faith looks like in a world of algorithms and anxiety.